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BARRY YOMTOV

Mon, Feb 3, 2025 2:28 AM

I've stated many times; what do astro-photographers do on cloudy nights? They reprocess their images.

I have a set of data on M31 that dates back to 2017 (taken with the RASA11) and at the time with my 60Da DSLR. I reprocessed it in 2020 when I was getting more experienced on PixInsight. I then dusted off the data again in December 2024 and reprocessed it with some of the new skills I've learned during this passed year including BlurXterminator.

I've attached all three images; keep in mind the data loss due to the reduction in jpeg file size. Zooming in definitely shows the improvement over the years. Let me know your thoughts on where the improvements have been the greatest.
Thanks
Barry

I've stated many times; what do astro-photographers do on cloudy nights? They reprocess their images. I have a set of data on M31 that dates back to 2017 (taken with the RASA11) and at the time with my 60Da DSLR. I reprocessed it in 2020 when I was getting more experienced on PixInsight. I then dusted off the data again in December 2024 and reprocessed it with some of the new skills I've learned during this passed year including BlurXterminator. I've attached all three images; keep in mind the data loss due to the reduction in jpeg file size. Zooming in definitely shows the improvement over the years. Let me know your thoughts on where the improvements have been the greatest. Thanks Barry

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philorb@aol.com

Mon, Feb 3, 2025 1:15 PM

Beautiful improvement, Barry,
Phil

On Monday, February 3, 2025 at 04:28:19 AM EST, BARRY YOMTOV via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us> wrote:   

I've stated many times; what do astro-photographers do on cloudy nights? They reprocess their images.        I have a set of data on M31 that dates back to 2017 (taken with the RASA11) and at the time with my 60Da DSLR. I reprocessed it in 2020 when I was getting more experienced on PixInsight. I then dusted off the data again in December 2024 and reprocessed it with some of the new skills I've learned during this passed year including BlurXterminator.        I've attached all three images; keep in mind the data loss due to the reduction in jpeg file size. Zooming in definitely shows the improvement over the years. Let me know your thoughts on where the improvements have been the greatest.   Thanks   Barry  _______________________________________________

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Beautiful improvement, Barry, Phil On Monday, February 3, 2025 at 04:28:19 AM EST, BARRY YOMTOV via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us> wrote: I've stated many times; what do astro-photographers do on cloudy nights? They reprocess their images. I have a set of data on M31 that dates back to 2017 (taken with the RASA11) and at the time with my 60Da DSLR. I reprocessed it in 2020 when I was getting more experienced on PixInsight. I then dusted off the data again in December 2024 and reprocessed it with some of the new skills I've learned during this passed year including BlurXterminator. I've attached all three images; keep in mind the data loss due to the reduction in jpeg file size. Zooming in definitely shows the improvement over the years. Let me know your thoughts on where the improvements have been the greatest. Thanks Barry _______________________________________________ Photo mailing list -- photo@lists.gaac.us To unsubscribe send an email to photo-leave@lists.gaac.us

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John Hobbs

Tue, Feb 4, 2025 2:57 AM

John Hobbs
hobbs_john@verizon.net

Barry, you can see significant improvements in each image and of course the last image is the most improved. On Monday, February 3, 2025 at 04:28:15 AM EST, BARRY YOMTOV via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us wrote:

I've stated many times; what do astro-photographers do on cloudy nights? They reprocess their images.        I have a set of data on M31 that dates back to 2017 (taken with the RASA11) and at the time with my 60Da DSLR. I reprocessed it in 2020 when I was getting more experienced on PixInsight. I then dusted off the data again in December 2024 and reprocessed it with some of the new skills I've learned during this passed year including BlurXterminator.        I've attached all three images; keep in mind the data loss due to the reduction in jpeg file size. Zooming in definitely shows the improvement over the years. Let me know your thoughts on where the improvements have been the greatest.   Thanks   Barry  _______________________________________________

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John Hobbs hobbs_john@verizon.net Barry, you can see significant improvements in each image and of course the last image is the most improved. On Monday, February 3, 2025 at 04:28:15 AM EST, BARRY YOMTOV via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us> wrote: I've stated many times; what do astro-photographers do on cloudy nights? They reprocess their images. I have a set of data on M31 that dates back to 2017 (taken with the RASA11) and at the time with my 60Da DSLR. I reprocessed it in 2020 when I was getting more experienced on PixInsight. I then dusted off the data again in December 2024 and reprocessed it with some of the new skills I've learned during this passed year including BlurXterminator. I've attached all three images; keep in mind the data loss due to the reduction in jpeg file size. Zooming in definitely shows the improvement over the years. Let me know your thoughts on where the improvements have been the greatest. Thanks Barry _______________________________________________ Photo mailing list -- photo@lists.gaac.us To unsubscribe send an email to photo-leave@lists.gaac.us

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Mario Motta

Tue, Feb 4, 2025 4:17 AM

Hi Barry, clearly the detail is improved on the latest iteration. Blux
makes a difference.
I have to say though I thought the color balance was best in the middle
frame, a minor matter
Mario

On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 4:28 AM BARRY YOMTOV via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us
wrote:

I've stated many times; what do astro-photographers do on cloudy nights?
They reprocess their images.

I have a set of data on M31 that dates back to 2017 (taken with the
RASA11) and at the time with my 60Da DSLR. I reprocessed it in 2020 when I
was getting more experienced on PixInsight. I then dusted off the data
again in December 2024 and reprocessed it with some of the new skills I've
learned during this passed year including BlurXterminator.

I've attached all three images; keep in mind the data loss due to the
reduction in jpeg file size. Zooming in definitely shows the improvement
over the years. Let me know your thoughts on where the improvements have
been the greatest.
Thanks
Barry

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Hi Barry, clearly the detail is improved on the latest iteration. Blux makes a difference. I have to say though I thought the color balance was best in the middle frame, a minor matter Mario On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 4:28 AM BARRY YOMTOV via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us> wrote: > I've stated many times; what do astro-photographers do on cloudy nights? > They reprocess their images. > > I have a set of data on M31 that dates back to 2017 (taken with the > RASA11) and at the time with my 60Da DSLR. I reprocessed it in 2020 when I > was getting more experienced on PixInsight. I then dusted off the data > again in December 2024 and reprocessed it with some of the new skills I've > learned during this passed year including BlurXterminator. > > I've attached all three images; keep in mind the data loss due to the > reduction in jpeg file size. Zooming in definitely shows the improvement > over the years. Let me know your thoughts on where the improvements have > been the greatest. > Thanks > Barry > _______________________________________________ > Photo mailing list -- photo@lists.gaac.us > To unsubscribe send an email to photo-leave@lists.gaac.us >

YS

Yves Simon

Wed, Feb 5, 2025 3:19 PM

Guys, enlighten me, because I have a 32" 3840x2160 pixels IPS monitor and I don't see any improvement in the last image, except maybe a little bit more 'bluish' clouds on the perephery of the galaxy.
No additional stars; not meaningful change of colors; and less contrast, making the last image less pleasant actually.

I like a lot that image, bravo, thank you for sharing, detailed, nice colors... But I don't see any improvement with the additional processing.

Yves

From: Mario Motta via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2025 4:17
To: BARRY YOMTOV bmyomtov@comcast.net
Cc: Mario Motta via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us
Subject: [Photo] Re: Evolution in Processing

Hi Barry, clearly the detail is improved on the latest iteration. Blux makes a difference.
I have to say though I thought the color balance was best in the middle frame, a minor matter
Mario

On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 4:28 AM BARRY YOMTOV via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us mailto:photo@lists.gaac.us> wrote:
I've stated many times; what do astro-photographers do on cloudy nights? They reprocess their images.

I have a set of data on M31 that dates back to 2017 (taken with the RASA11) and at the time with my 60Da DSLR. I reprocessed it in 2020 when I was getting more experienced on PixInsight. I then dusted off the data again in December 2024 and reprocessed it with some of the new skills I've learned during this passed year including BlurXterminator.

I've attached all three images; keep in mind the data loss due to the reduction in jpeg file size. Zooming in definitely shows the improvement over the years. Let me know your thoughts on where the improvements have been the greatest.
Thanks
Barry

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Guys, enlighten me, because I have a 32" 3840x2160 pixels IPS monitor and I don't see any improvement in the last image, except maybe a little bit more 'bluish' clouds on the perephery of the galaxy. No additional stars; not meaningful change of colors; and less contrast, making the last image less pleasant actually. I like a lot that image, bravo, thank you for sharing, detailed, nice colors... But I don't see any improvement with the additional processing. Yves ________________________________ From: Mario Motta via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us> Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2025 4:17 To: BARRY YOMTOV <bmyomtov@comcast.net> Cc: Mario Motta via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us> Subject: [Photo] Re: Evolution in Processing Hi Barry, clearly the detail is improved on the latest iteration. Blux makes a difference. I have to say though I thought the color balance was best in the middle frame, a minor matter Mario On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 4:28 AM BARRY YOMTOV via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us<mailto:photo@lists.gaac.us>> wrote: I've stated many times; what do astro-photographers do on cloudy nights? They reprocess their images. I have a set of data on M31 that dates back to 2017 (taken with the RASA11) and at the time with my 60Da DSLR. I reprocessed it in 2020 when I was getting more experienced on PixInsight. I then dusted off the data again in December 2024 and reprocessed it with some of the new skills I've learned during this passed year including BlurXterminator. I've attached all three images; keep in mind the data loss due to the reduction in jpeg file size. Zooming in definitely shows the improvement over the years. Let me know your thoughts on where the improvements have been the greatest. Thanks Barry _______________________________________________ Photo mailing list -- photo@lists.gaac.us<mailto:photo@lists.gaac.us> To unsubscribe send an email to photo-leave@lists.gaac.us<mailto:photo-leave@lists.gaac.us>

MM

Mario Motta

Wed, Feb 5, 2025 3:23 PM

zoom in to see better detail
Mario

On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 10:19 AM Yves Simon belgarchi@gmail.com wrote:

Guys, enlighten me, because I have a 32" 3840x2160 pixels IPS monitor and
I don't see any improvement in the last image, except maybe a little bit
more 'bluish' clouds on the perephery of the galaxy.
No additional stars; not meaningful change of colors; and less contrast,
making the last image less pleasant actually.

I like a lot that image, bravo, thank you for sharing, detailed, nice
colors... But I don't see any improvement with the additional processing.

Yves

From: Mario Motta via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2025 4:17
To: BARRY YOMTOV bmyomtov@comcast.net
Cc: Mario Motta via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us
Subject: [Photo] Re: Evolution in Processing

Hi Barry, clearly the detail is improved on the latest iteration. Blux
makes a difference.
I have to say though I thought the color balance was best in the middle
frame, a minor matter
Mario

On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 4:28 AM BARRY YOMTOV via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us
wrote:

I've stated many times; what do astro-photographers do on cloudy nights?
They reprocess their images.

I have a set of data on M31 that dates back to 2017 (taken with the
RASA11) and at the time with my 60Da DSLR. I reprocessed it in 2020 when I
was getting more experienced on PixInsight. I then dusted off the data
again in December 2024 and reprocessed it with some of the new skills I've
learned during this passed year including BlurXterminator.

I've attached all three images; keep in mind the data loss due to the
reduction in jpeg file size. Zooming in definitely shows the improvement
over the years. Let me know your thoughts on where the improvements have
been the greatest.
Thanks
Barry

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zoom in to see better detail Mario On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 10:19 AM Yves Simon <belgarchi@gmail.com> wrote: > Guys, enlighten me, because I have a 32" 3840x2160 pixels IPS monitor and > I don't see any improvement in the last image, except maybe a little bit > more 'bluish' clouds on the perephery of the galaxy. > No additional stars; not meaningful change of colors; and less contrast, > making the last image less pleasant actually. > > I like a lot that image, bravo, thank you for sharing, detailed, nice > colors... But I don't see any improvement with the additional processing. > > Yves > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Mario Motta via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 4, 2025 4:17 > *To:* BARRY YOMTOV <bmyomtov@comcast.net> > *Cc:* Mario Motta via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us> > *Subject:* [Photo] Re: Evolution in Processing > > Hi Barry, clearly the detail is improved on the latest iteration. Blux > makes a difference. > I have to say though I thought the color balance was best in the middle > frame, a minor matter > Mario > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 4:28 AM BARRY YOMTOV via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us> > wrote: > > I've stated many times; what do astro-photographers do on cloudy nights? > They reprocess their images. > > I have a set of data on M31 that dates back to 2017 (taken with the > RASA11) and at the time with my 60Da DSLR. I reprocessed it in 2020 when I > was getting more experienced on PixInsight. I then dusted off the data > again in December 2024 and reprocessed it with some of the new skills I've > learned during this passed year including BlurXterminator. > > I've attached all three images; keep in mind the data loss due to the > reduction in jpeg file size. Zooming in definitely shows the improvement > over the years. Let me know your thoughts on where the improvements have > been the greatest. > Thanks > Barry > _______________________________________________ > Photo mailing list -- photo@lists.gaac.us > To unsubscribe send an email to photo-leave@lists.gaac.us > >

YS

Yves Simon

Wed, Feb 5, 2025 11:58 PM

Well..... I did that, you know.....
What improvements am I supposed to see? It is really not obvious.

Yves

From: Mario Motta drmariomotta@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2025 15:23
To: Yves Simon belgarchi@gmail.com
Cc: BARRY YOMTOV bmyomtov@comcast.net; Mario Motta via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: Evolution in Processing

zoom in to see better detail
Mario

On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 10:19 AM Yves Simon <belgarchi@gmail.com mailto:belgarchi@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys, enlighten me, because I have a 32" 3840x2160 pixels IPS monitor and I don't see any improvement in the last image, except maybe a little bit more 'bluish' clouds on the perephery of the galaxy.
No additional stars; not meaningful change of colors; and less contrast, making the last image less pleasant actually.

I like a lot that image, bravo, thank you for sharing, detailed, nice colors... But I don't see any improvement with the additional processing.

Yves

From: Mario Motta via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us mailto:photo@lists.gaac.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2025 4:17
To: BARRY YOMTOV <bmyomtov@comcast.net mailto:bmyomtov@comcast.net>
Cc: Mario Motta via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us mailto:photo@lists.gaac.us>
Subject: [Photo] Re: Evolution in Processing

Hi Barry, clearly the detail is improved on the latest iteration. Blux makes a difference.
I have to say though I thought the color balance was best in the middle frame, a minor matter
Mario

On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 4:28 AM BARRY YOMTOV via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us mailto:photo@lists.gaac.us> wrote:
I've stated many times; what do astro-photographers do on cloudy nights? They reprocess their images.

I have a set of data on M31 that dates back to 2017 (taken with the RASA11) and at the time with my 60Da DSLR. I reprocessed it in 2020 when I was getting more experienced on PixInsight. I then dusted off the data again in December 2024 and reprocessed it with some of the new skills I've learned during this passed year including BlurXterminator.

I've attached all three images; keep in mind the data loss due to the reduction in jpeg file size. Zooming in definitely shows the improvement over the years. Let me know your thoughts on where the improvements have been the greatest.
Thanks
Barry

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Well..... I did that, you know..... What improvements am I supposed to see? It is really not obvious. Yves ________________________________ From: Mario Motta <drmariomotta@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2025 15:23 To: Yves Simon <belgarchi@gmail.com> Cc: BARRY YOMTOV <bmyomtov@comcast.net>; Mario Motta via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us> Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: Evolution in Processing zoom in to see better detail Mario On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 10:19 AM Yves Simon <belgarchi@gmail.com<mailto:belgarchi@gmail.com>> wrote: Guys, enlighten me, because I have a 32" 3840x2160 pixels IPS monitor and I don't see any improvement in the last image, except maybe a little bit more 'bluish' clouds on the perephery of the galaxy. No additional stars; not meaningful change of colors; and less contrast, making the last image less pleasant actually. I like a lot that image, bravo, thank you for sharing, detailed, nice colors... But I don't see any improvement with the additional processing. Yves ________________________________ From: Mario Motta via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us<mailto:photo@lists.gaac.us>> Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2025 4:17 To: BARRY YOMTOV <bmyomtov@comcast.net<mailto:bmyomtov@comcast.net>> Cc: Mario Motta via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us<mailto:photo@lists.gaac.us>> Subject: [Photo] Re: Evolution in Processing Hi Barry, clearly the detail is improved on the latest iteration. Blux makes a difference. I have to say though I thought the color balance was best in the middle frame, a minor matter Mario On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 4:28 AM BARRY YOMTOV via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us<mailto:photo@lists.gaac.us>> wrote: I've stated many times; what do astro-photographers do on cloudy nights? They reprocess their images. I have a set of data on M31 that dates back to 2017 (taken with the RASA11) and at the time with my 60Da DSLR. I reprocessed it in 2020 when I was getting more experienced on PixInsight. I then dusted off the data again in December 2024 and reprocessed it with some of the new skills I've learned during this passed year including BlurXterminator. I've attached all three images; keep in mind the data loss due to the reduction in jpeg file size. Zooming in definitely shows the improvement over the years. Let me know your thoughts on where the improvements have been the greatest. Thanks Barry _______________________________________________ Photo mailing list -- photo@lists.gaac.us<mailto:photo@lists.gaac.us> To unsubscribe send an email to photo-leave@lists.gaac.us<mailto:photo-leave@lists.gaac.us>

MM

Mario Motta

Sat, Feb 8, 2025 5:20 PM

Well, I will leave it for Barry really, but.. zoom in and the shock waves
are tighter, and more distinct.
Join the next photo group meeting maybe Barry can demonstrate
Mario

On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 6:58 PM Yves Simon belgarchi@gmail.com wrote:

Well..... I did that, you know.....
What improvements am I supposed to see? It is really not obvious.

Yves

From: Mario Motta drmariomotta@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2025 15:23
To: Yves Simon belgarchi@gmail.com
Cc: BARRY YOMTOV bmyomtov@comcast.net; Mario Motta via Photo <
photo@lists.gaac.us>
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: Evolution in Processing

zoom in to see better detail
Mario

On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 10:19 AM Yves Simon belgarchi@gmail.com wrote:

Guys, enlighten me, because I have a 32" 3840x2160 pixels IPS monitor and
I don't see any improvement in the last image, except maybe a little bit
more 'bluish' clouds on the perephery of the galaxy.
No additional stars; not meaningful change of colors; and less contrast,
making the last image less pleasant actually.

I like a lot that image, bravo, thank you for sharing, detailed, nice
colors... But I don't see any improvement with the additional processing.

Yves

From: Mario Motta via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2025 4:17
To: BARRY YOMTOV bmyomtov@comcast.net
Cc: Mario Motta via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us
Subject: [Photo] Re: Evolution in Processing

Hi Barry, clearly the detail is improved on the latest iteration. Blux
makes a difference.
I have to say though I thought the color balance was best in the middle
frame, a minor matter
Mario

On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 4:28 AM BARRY YOMTOV via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us
wrote:

I've stated many times; what do astro-photographers do on cloudy nights?
They reprocess their images.

I have a set of data on M31 that dates back to 2017 (taken with the
RASA11) and at the time with my 60Da DSLR. I reprocessed it in 2020 when I
was getting more experienced on PixInsight. I then dusted off the data
again in December 2024 and reprocessed it with some of the new skills I've
learned during this passed year including BlurXterminator.

I've attached all three images; keep in mind the data loss due to the
reduction in jpeg file size. Zooming in definitely shows the improvement
over the years. Let me know your thoughts on where the improvements have
been the greatest.
Thanks
Barry

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Well, I will leave it for Barry really, but.. zoom in and the shock waves are tighter, and more distinct. Join the next photo group meeting maybe Barry can demonstrate Mario On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 6:58 PM Yves Simon <belgarchi@gmail.com> wrote: > Well..... I did that, you know..... > What improvements am I supposed to see? It is really not obvious. > > Yves > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Mario Motta <drmariomotta@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 5, 2025 15:23 > *To:* Yves Simon <belgarchi@gmail.com> > *Cc:* BARRY YOMTOV <bmyomtov@comcast.net>; Mario Motta via Photo < > photo@lists.gaac.us> > *Subject:* Re: [Photo] Re: Evolution in Processing > > zoom in to see better detail > Mario > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 10:19 AM Yves Simon <belgarchi@gmail.com> wrote: > > Guys, enlighten me, because I have a 32" 3840x2160 pixels IPS monitor and > I don't see any improvement in the last image, except maybe a little bit > more 'bluish' clouds on the perephery of the galaxy. > No additional stars; not meaningful change of colors; and less contrast, > making the last image less pleasant actually. > > I like a lot that image, bravo, thank you for sharing, detailed, nice > colors... But I don't see any improvement with the additional processing. > > Yves > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Mario Motta via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 4, 2025 4:17 > *To:* BARRY YOMTOV <bmyomtov@comcast.net> > *Cc:* Mario Motta via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us> > *Subject:* [Photo] Re: Evolution in Processing > > Hi Barry, clearly the detail is improved on the latest iteration. Blux > makes a difference. > I have to say though I thought the color balance was best in the middle > frame, a minor matter > Mario > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 4:28 AM BARRY YOMTOV via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us> > wrote: > > I've stated many times; what do astro-photographers do on cloudy nights? > They reprocess their images. > > I have a set of data on M31 that dates back to 2017 (taken with the > RASA11) and at the time with my 60Da DSLR. I reprocessed it in 2020 when I > was getting more experienced on PixInsight. I then dusted off the data > again in December 2024 and reprocessed it with some of the new skills I've > learned during this passed year including BlurXterminator. > > I've attached all three images; keep in mind the data loss due to the > reduction in jpeg file size. Zooming in definitely shows the improvement > over the years. Let me know your thoughts on where the improvements have > been the greatest. > Thanks > Barry > _______________________________________________ > Photo mailing list -- photo@lists.gaac.us > To unsubscribe send an email to photo-leave@lists.gaac.us > >