Re: M51 redo with blurXterminator
You're right Mario, this is a very powerful tool.
I redid my 2019 image of M51 (which I thought was pretty good), by first going back to the DBE step and then adding BlurEXterminator.The difference in sharpness is striking. I didn't spend too much time on the other steps.The contrast and color would have been even better if I had.
Before and after images attached.
Phil
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Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Phil, Russell says best to use while linear, so use right after DBE. You can later use a mild form at the end but lower the amount I found out. FYIMario
On Dec 15, 2022, at 7:32 PM, philorb@aol.com wrote:
Wow indeed. This BLueEx improvement looks as clear as a hi-res aerial photo of the Grand Canyon.
Phil
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Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
so I played with another image.last week also took the flame, NFC 2024, came out "OK" but was not the best steady night.So attached is usual processing.... NGC2024.
same data, had to play with it a bit of learning how now, a BlurXterminator processed NGC2024.all I can say is... WOW. like I took my scope into orbit above the atmosphere.
Like that old "monkeys song,... "I'm a believer" now.This is blowing me away... comments anyone?
Mario
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 4:17 PM philorb--- via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us wrote:
The difference is obvious and strikingly bette,r Mario.
Thanks very much for giving us a heads-up.
Phil
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Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 3:10 pm
Subject: [Photo] I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Hi Guys, this new add on to Pix, Blur exterminator is incredible on first attemptI had done NGC1245 last week for Jan Object of the month.Looked OK. I just re processed with first using BluX, and results are astounding. I attached both for you to examine.The stars in regular processing are OK, but by first treating them to BluX.. the stars while still in linear state became much better. stars are sharp, from edge to edge. Also.. note along the left (eastern) side. on blux version 2 galaxies popped into view not seen on the original processing !!wow.
I am going to test on a few others (1 month free trial by the way), but if I keep getting these results this is indeed a game changer.
see attached images for comparisonLets plan on full discussion of this next month monday session, I will prepare comparisons.
Mario_______________________________________________
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Wow… my only concern is I have about 900 images over the years that now need to be reprocessed 😳
Mario
On Dec 16, 2022, at 11:08 AM, philorb@aol.com wrote:
You're right Mario, this is a very powerful tool.
I redid my 2019 image of M51 (which I thought was pretty good), by first going back to the DBE step and then adding BlurEXterminator.
The difference in sharpness is striking. I didn't spend too much time on the other steps.
The contrast and color would have been even better if I had.
Before and after images attached.
Phil
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From: Mario Motta drmariomotta@gmail.com
To: philorb@aol.com
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Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Phil, Russell says best to use while linear, so use right after DBE. You can later use a mild form at the end but lower the amount I found out. FYI
Mario
On Dec 15, 2022, at 7:32 PM, philorb@aol.com wrote:
Wow indeed. This BLueEx improvement looks as clear as a hi-res aerial photo of the Grand Canyon.
Phil
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To: philorb@aol.com
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Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
so I played with another image.
last week also took the flame, NFC 2024, came out "OK" but was not the best steady night.
So attached is usual processing.... NGC2024.
same data, had to play with it a bit of learning how now, a BlurXterminator processed NGC2024.
all I can say is... WOW. like I took my scope into orbit above the atmosphere.
Like that old "monkeys song,... "I'm a believer" now.
This is blowing me away... comments anyone?
Mario
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 4:17 PM philorb--- via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us wrote:
The difference is obvious and strikingly bette,r Mario.
Thanks very much for giving us a heads-up.
Phil
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Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 3:10 pm
Subject: [Photo] I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Hi Guys, this new add on to Pix, Blur exterminator is incredible on first attempt
I had done NGC1245 last week for Jan Object of the month.
Looked OK. I just re processed with first using BluX, and results are astounding. I attached both for you to examine.
The stars in regular processing are OK, but by first treating them to BluX.. the stars while still in linear state became much better. stars are sharp, from edge to edge. Also.. note along the left (eastern) side. on blux version 2 galaxies popped into view not seen on the original processing !!
wow.
I am going to test on a few others (1 month free trial by the way), but if I keep getting these results this is indeed a game changer.
see attached images for comparison
Lets plan on full discussion of this next month monday session, I will prepare comparisons.
Mario
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Hi Phil, one tip on reviewing more closely
On the new BluX image, I would mask the galaxy, and run a noise reduction
for the material in the wave of gas/stars. I plan on doing that to reduce
some minor noise that can occur with this process. otherwise... wow
Mario
On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 11:08 AM philorb@aol.com wrote:
You're right Mario, this is a very powerful tool.
I redid my 2019 image of M51 (which I thought was pretty good), by first
going back to the DBE step and then adding BlurEXterminator.
The difference in sharpness is striking. I didn't spend too much time
on the other steps.
The contrast and color would have been even better if I had.
Before and after images attached.
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: Mario Motta drmariomotta@gmail.com
To: philorb@aol.com
Cc: photo@lists.gaac.us; bmyomtov@comcast.net;
michael.patrick.deneen@gmail.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Phil, Russell says best to use while linear, so use right after DBE. You
can later use a mild form at the end but lower the amount I found out. FYI
Mario
On Dec 15, 2022, at 7:32 PM, philorb@aol.com wrote:
Wow indeed. This BLueEx improvement looks as clear as a hi-res aerial
photo of the Grand Canyon.
Phil
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From: Mario Motta drmariomotta@gmail.com
To: philorb@aol.com
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bmyomtov@comcast.net>; michael.patrick.deneen@gmail.com <
michael.patrick.deneen@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
so I played with another image.
last week also took the flame, NFC 2024, came out "OK" but was not the
best steady night.
So attached is usual processing.... NGC2024.
same data, had to play with it a bit of learning how now, a
BlurXterminator processed NGC2024.
all I can say is... WOW. like I took my scope into orbit above the
atmosphere.
Like that old "monkeys song,... "I'm a believer" now.
This is blowing me away... comments anyone?
Mario
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 4:17 PM philorb--- via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us
wrote:
The difference is obvious and strikingly bette,r Mario.
Thanks very much for giving us a heads-up.
Phil
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To: Michael Deneen via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us; Phil E Orbanes <
philorb@aol.com>; BARRY YOMTOV bmyomtov@comcast.net; Michael Deneen <
michael.patrick.deneen@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 3:10 pm
Subject: [Photo] I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Hi Guys, this new add on to Pix, Blur exterminator is incredible on first
attempt
I had done NGC1245 last week for Jan Object of the month.
Looked OK. I just re processed with first using BluX, and results are
astounding. I attached both for you to examine.
The stars in regular processing are OK, but by first treating them to
BluX.. the stars while still in linear state became much better. stars are
sharp, from edge to edge. Also.. note along the left (eastern) side. on
blux version 2 galaxies popped into view not seen on the original
processing !!
wow.
I am going to test on a few others (1 month free trial by the way), but if
I keep getting these results this is indeed a game changer.
see attached images for comparison
Lets plan on full discussion of this next month monday session, I will
prepare comparisons.
Mario
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Phil, keep these images and show them in a Monday session in January
I will do the same on my end
I think we should have a great discussion on blurX in our monthly photo session
Mario
On Dec 16, 2022, at 11:17 AM, Mario Motta drmariomotta@gmail.com wrote:
Wow… my only concern is I have about 900 images over the years that now need to be reprocessed 😳
Mario
On Dec 16, 2022, at 11:08 AM, philorb@aol.com wrote:
You're right Mario, this is a very powerful tool.
I redid my 2019 image of M51 (which I thought was pretty good), by first going back to the DBE step and then adding BlurEXterminator.
The difference in sharpness is striking. I didn't spend too much time on the other steps.
The contrast and color would have been even better if I had.
Before and after images attached.
Phil
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From: Mario Motta drmariomotta@gmail.com
To: philorb@aol.com
Cc: photo@lists.gaac.us; bmyomtov@comcast.net; michael.patrick.deneen@gmail.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Phil, Russell says best to use while linear, so use right after DBE. You can later use a mild form at the end but lower the amount I found out. FYI
Mario
On Dec 15, 2022, at 7:32 PM, philorb@aol.com wrote:
Wow indeed. This BLueEx improvement looks as clear as a hi-res aerial photo of the Grand Canyon.
Phil
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To: philorb@aol.com
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Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
so I played with another image.
last week also took the flame, NFC 2024, came out "OK" but was not the best steady night.
So attached is usual processing.... NGC2024.
same data, had to play with it a bit of learning how now, a BlurXterminator processed NGC2024.
all I can say is... WOW. like I took my scope into orbit above the atmosphere.
Like that old "monkeys song,... "I'm a believer" now.
This is blowing me away... comments anyone?
Mario
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 4:17 PM philorb--- via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us wrote:
The difference is obvious and strikingly bette,r Mario.
Thanks very much for giving us a heads-up.
Phil
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To: Michael Deneen via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us; Phil E Orbanes philorb@aol.com; BARRY YOMTOV bmyomtov@comcast.net; Michael Deneen michael.patrick.deneen@gmail.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 3:10 pm
Subject: [Photo] I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Hi Guys, this new add on to Pix, Blur exterminator is incredible on first attempt
I had done NGC1245 last week for Jan Object of the month.
Looked OK. I just re processed with first using BluX, and results are astounding. I attached both for you to examine.
The stars in regular processing are OK, but by first treating them to BluX.. the stars while still in linear state became much better. stars are sharp, from edge to edge. Also.. note along the left (eastern) side. on blux version 2 galaxies popped into view not seen on the original processing !!
wow.
I am going to test on a few others (1 month free trial by the way), but if I keep getting these results this is indeed a game changer.
see attached images for comparison
Lets plan on full discussion of this next month monday session, I will prepare comparisons.
Mario
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Yes, I will do so, having cut corners in a rush to see the impact of BLurEx.
And you are right, I am also going to have to spend some time redoing favorite images that will benefit from this new miracle
Phil
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Sent: Fri, Dec 16, 2022 11:59 am
Subject: Re: M51 redo with blurXterminator
Hi Phil, one tip on reviewing more closelyOn the new BluX image, I would mask the galaxy, and run a noise reduction for the material in the wave of gas/stars. I plan on doing that to reduce some minor noise that can occur with this process. otherwise... wowMario
On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 11:08 AM philorb@aol.com wrote:
You're right Mario, this is a very powerful tool.
I redid my 2019 image of M51 (which I thought was pretty good), by first going back to the DBE step and then adding BlurEXterminator.The difference in sharpness is striking. I didn't spend too much time on the other steps.The contrast and color would have been even better if I had.
Before and after images attached.
Phil
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From: Mario Motta drmariomotta@gmail.com
To: philorb@aol.com
Cc: photo@lists.gaac.us; bmyomtov@comcast.net; michael.patrick.deneen@gmail.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Phil, Russell says best to use while linear, so use right after DBE. You can later use a mild form at the end but lower the amount I found out. FYIMario
On Dec 15, 2022, at 7:32 PM, philorb@aol.com wrote:
Wow indeed. This BLueEx improvement looks as clear as a hi-res aerial photo of the Grand Canyon.
Phil
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From: Mario Motta drmariomotta@gmail.com
To: philorb@aol.com
Cc: photo@lists.gaac.us photo@lists.gaac.us; bmyomtov@comcast.net bmyomtov@comcast.net; michael.patrick.deneen@gmail.com michael.patrick.deneen@gmail.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
so I played with another image.last week also took the flame, NFC 2024, came out "OK" but was not the best steady night.So attached is usual processing.... NGC2024.
same data, had to play with it a bit of learning how now, a BlurXterminator processed NGC2024.all I can say is... WOW. like I took my scope into orbit above the atmosphere.
Like that old "monkeys song,... "I'm a believer" now.This is blowing me away... comments anyone?
Mario
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 4:17 PM philorb--- via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us wrote:
The difference is obvious and strikingly bette,r Mario.
Thanks very much for giving us a heads-up.
Phil
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To: Michael Deneen via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us; Phil E Orbanes philorb@aol.com; BARRY YOMTOV bmyomtov@comcast.net; Michael Deneen michael.patrick.deneen@gmail.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 3:10 pm
Subject: [Photo] I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Hi Guys, this new add on to Pix, Blur exterminator is incredible on first attemptI had done NGC1245 last week for Jan Object of the month.Looked OK. I just re processed with first using BluX, and results are astounding. I attached both for you to examine.The stars in regular processing are OK, but by first treating them to BluX.. the stars while still in linear state became much better. stars are sharp, from edge to edge. Also.. note along the left (eastern) side. on blux version 2 galaxies popped into view not seen on the original processing !!wow.
I am going to test on a few others (1 month free trial by the way), but if I keep getting these results this is indeed a game changer.
see attached images for comparisonLets plan on full discussion of this next month monday session, I will prepare comparisons.
Mario_______________________________________________
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Agreed!
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Sent: Fri, Dec 16, 2022 12:00 pm
Subject: [Photo] Re: M51 redo with blurXterminator
Phil, keep these images and show them in a Monday session in January I will do the same on my endI think we should have a great discussion on blurX in our monthly photo sessionMario
On Dec 16, 2022, at 11:17 AM, Mario Motta drmariomotta@gmail.com wrote:
Wow… my only concern is I have about 900 images over the years that now need to be reprocessed 😳Mario
On Dec 16, 2022, at 11:08 AM, philorb@aol.com wrote:
You're right Mario, this is a very powerful tool.
I redid my 2019 image of M51 (which I thought was pretty good), by first going back to the DBE step and then adding BlurEXterminator.The difference in sharpness is striking. I didn't spend too much time on the other steps.The contrast and color would have been even better if I had.
Before and after images attached.
Phil
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To: philorb@aol.com
Cc: photo@lists.gaac.us; bmyomtov@comcast.net; michael.patrick.deneen@gmail.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Phil, Russell says best to use while linear, so use right after DBE. You can later use a mild form at the end but lower the amount I found out. FYIMario
On Dec 15, 2022, at 7:32 PM, philorb@aol.com wrote:
Wow indeed. This BLueEx improvement looks as clear as a hi-res aerial photo of the Grand Canyon.
Phil
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From: Mario Motta drmariomotta@gmail.com
To: philorb@aol.com
Cc: photo@lists.gaac.us photo@lists.gaac.us; bmyomtov@comcast.net bmyomtov@comcast.net; michael.patrick.deneen@gmail.com michael.patrick.deneen@gmail.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
so I played with another image.last week also took the flame, NFC 2024, came out "OK" but was not the best steady night.So attached is usual processing.... NGC2024.
same data, had to play with it a bit of learning how now, a BlurXterminator processed NGC2024.all I can say is... WOW. like I took my scope into orbit above the atmosphere.
Like that old "monkeys song,... "I'm a believer" now.This is blowing me away... comments anyone?
Mario
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 4:17 PM philorb--- via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us wrote:
The difference is obvious and strikingly bette,r Mario.
Thanks very much for giving us a heads-up.
Phil
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To: Michael Deneen via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us; Phil E Orbanes philorb@aol.com; BARRY YOMTOV bmyomtov@comcast.net; Michael Deneen michael.patrick.deneen@gmail.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 3:10 pm
Subject: [Photo] I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Hi Guys, this new add on to Pix, Blur exterminator is incredible on first attemptI had done NGC1245 last week for Jan Object of the month.Looked OK. I just re processed with first using BluX, and results are astounding. I attached both for you to examine.The stars in regular processing are OK, but by first treating them to BluX.. the stars while still in linear state became much better. stars are sharp, from edge to edge. Also.. note along the left (eastern) side. on blux version 2 galaxies popped into view not seen on the original processing !!wow.
I am going to test on a few others (1 month free trial by the way), but if I keep getting these results this is indeed a game changer.
see attached images for comparisonLets plan on full discussion of this next month monday session, I will prepare comparisons.
Mario_______________________________________________
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Phil: Very nice improvement. I noticed that the spirals are sharper but at the expense of some of the whisks of the outer edges of the galaxy.
John Hobbshobbs_john@verizon.net
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Sent: Fri, Dec 16, 2022 11:08 am
Subject: [Photo] Re: M51 redo with blurXterminator
You're right Mario, this is a very powerful tool.
I redid my 2019 image of M51 (which I thought was pretty good), by first going back to the DBE step and then adding BlurEXterminator.The difference in sharpness is striking. I didn't spend too much time on the other steps.The contrast and color would have been even better if I had.
Before and after images attached.
Phil
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To: philorb@aol.com
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Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Phil, Russell says best to use while linear, so use right after DBE. You can later use a mild form at the end but lower the amount I found out. FYIMario
On Dec 15, 2022, at 7:32 PM, philorb@aol.com wrote:
Wow indeed. This BLueEx improvement looks as clear as a hi-res aerial photo of the Grand Canyon.
Phil
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From: Mario Motta drmariomotta@gmail.com
To: philorb@aol.com
Cc: photo@lists.gaac.us photo@lists.gaac.us; bmyomtov@comcast.net bmyomtov@comcast.net; michael.patrick.deneen@gmail.com michael.patrick.deneen@gmail.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
so I played with another image.last week also took the flame, NFC 2024, came out "OK" but was not the best steady night.So attached is usual processing.... NGC2024.
same data, had to play with it a bit of learning how now, a BlurXterminator processed NGC2024.all I can say is... WOW. like I took my scope into orbit above the atmosphere.
Like that old "monkeys song,... "I'm a believer" now.This is blowing me away... comments anyone?
Mario
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 4:17 PM philorb--- via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us wrote:
The difference is obvious and strikingly bette,r Mario.
Thanks very much for giving us a heads-up.
Phil
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Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 3:10 pm
Subject: [Photo] I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Hi Guys, this new add on to Pix, Blur exterminator is incredible on first attemptI had done NGC1245 last week for Jan Object of the month.Looked OK. I just re processed with first using BluX, and results are astounding. I attached both for you to examine.The stars in regular processing are OK, but by first treating them to BluX.. the stars while still in linear state became much better. stars are sharp, from edge to edge. Also.. note along the left (eastern) side. on blux version 2 galaxies popped into view not seen on the original processing !!wow.
I am going to test on a few others (1 month free trial by the way), but if I keep getting these results this is indeed a game changer.
see attached images for comparisonLets plan on full discussion of this next month monday session, I will prepare comparisons.
Mario_______________________________________________
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Subject: [Photo] Re: M51 redo with blurXterminator
Agreed!
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Subject: [Photo] Re: M51 redo with blurXterminator
Phil, keep these images and show them in a Monday session in January
I will do the same on my end
I think we should have a great discussion on blurX in our monthly photo session
Mario
On Dec 16, 2022, at 11:17 AM, Mario Motta <drmariomotta@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow… my only concern is I have about 900 images over the years that now need to be reprocessed 😳
Mario
On Dec 16, 2022, at 11:08 AM, philorb@aol.com wrote:
You're right Mario, this is a very powerful tool.
I redid my 2019 image of M51 (which I thought was pretty good), by first going back to the DBE step and then adding BlurEXterminator.
The difference in sharpness is striking. I didn't spend too much time on the other steps.
The contrast and color would have been even better if I had.
Before and after images attached.
Phil
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Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminatorPhil, Russell says best to use while linear, so use right after DBE. You can later use a mild form at the end but lower the amount I found out. FYI
Mario
On Dec 15, 2022, at 7:32 PM, philorb@aol.com wrote:
Wow indeed. This BLueEx improvement looks as clear as a hi-res aerial photo of the Grand Canyon.
Phil
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Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminatorso I played with another image.
last week also took the flame, NFC 2024, came out "OK" but was not the best steady night.
So attached is usual processing.... NGC2024.
same data, had to play with it a bit of learning how now, a BlurXterminator processed NGC2024.
all I can say is.. WOW. like I took my scope into orbit above the atmosphere.
Like that old "monkeys song,... "I'm a believer" now.
This is blowing me away... comments anyone?
Mario
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 4:17 PM philorb--- via Photo <photo@lists.gaac.us> wrote:
The difference is obvious and strikingly bette,r Mario.
Thanks very much for giving us a heads-up.
Phil
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Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 3:10 pm
Subject: [Photo] I am a believer.. blurXterminatorHi Guys, this new add on to Pix, Blur exterminator is incredible on first attempt
I had done NGC1245 last week for Jan Object of the month.
Looked OK. I just re processed with first using BluX, and results are astounding. I attached both for you to examine.
The stars in regular processing are OK, but by first treating them to BluX.. the stars while still in linear state became much better. stars are sharp, from edge to edge. Also.. note along the left (eastern) side. on blux version 2 galaxies popped into view not seen on the original processing !!
wow.
I am going to test on a few others (1 month free trial by the way), but if I keep getting these results this is indeed a game changer.
see attached images for comparison
Lets plan on full discussion of this next month monday session, I will prepare comparisons.
Mario
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Good observation, John,
I should be able to restore the whisks when I go back and redo it right.
Phil
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Sent: Fri, Dec 16, 2022 1:15 pm
Subject: [Photo] Re: M51 redo with blurXterminator
Phil: Very nice improvement. I noticed that the spirals are sharper but at the expense of some of the whisks of the outer edges of the galaxy.
John Hobbshobbs_john@verizon.net
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Sent: Fri, Dec 16, 2022 11:08 am
Subject: [Photo] Re: M51 redo with blurXterminator
You're right Mario, this is a very powerful tool.
I redid my 2019 image of M51 (which I thought was pretty good), by first going back to the DBE step and then adding BlurEXterminator.The difference in sharpness is striking. I didn't spend too much time on the other steps.The contrast and color would have been even better if I had.
Before and after images attached.
Phil
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Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Phil, Russell says best to use while linear, so use right after DBE. You can later use a mild form at the end but lower the amount I found out. FYIMario
On Dec 15, 2022, at 7:32 PM, philorb@aol.com wrote:
Wow indeed. This BLueEx improvement looks as clear as a hi-res aerial photo of the Grand Canyon.
Phil
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Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
so I played with another image.last week also took the flame, NFC 2024, came out "OK" but was not the best steady night.So attached is usual processing.... NGC2024.
same data, had to play with it a bit of learning how now, a BlurXterminator processed NGC2024.all I can say is... WOW. like I took my scope into orbit above the atmosphere.
Like that old "monkeys song,... "I'm a believer" now.This is blowing me away... comments anyone?
Mario
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 4:17 PM philorb--- via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us wrote:
The difference is obvious and strikingly bette,r Mario.
Thanks very much for giving us a heads-up.
Phil
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Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 3:10 pm
Subject: [Photo] I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Hi Guys, this new add on to Pix, Blur exterminator is incredible on first attemptI had done NGC1245 last week for Jan Object of the month.Looked OK. I just re processed with first using BluX, and results are astounding. I attached both for you to examine.The stars in regular processing are OK, but by first treating them to BluX.. the stars while still in linear state became much better. stars are sharp, from edge to edge. Also.. note along the left (eastern) side. on blux version 2 galaxies popped into view not seen on the original processing !!wow.
I am going to test on a few others (1 month free trial by the way), but if I keep getting these results this is indeed a game changer.
see attached images for comparisonLets plan on full discussion of this next month monday session, I will prepare comparisons.
Mario_______________________________________________
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I had a chance over the weekend to take my time while reprocessing M51 with Pix and the new Blur Xterminator.
As you can see, the improvement in detail is striking.It even sharpened and brightened the two tiny galaxies above NGC5195.I was also able to bring out more of the galaxy's whisps, per John's observation.
I imagine a comfort level with this new tool will develop over many applications.
Phil
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Sent: Fri, Dec 16, 2022 1:15 pm
Subject: [Photo] Re: M51 redo with blurXterminator
Phil: Very nice improvement. I noticed that the spirals are sharper but at the expense of some of the whisks of the outer edges of the galaxy.
John Hobbshobbs_john@verizon.net
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Sent: Fri, Dec 16, 2022 11:08 am
Subject: [Photo] Re: M51 redo with blurXterminator
You're right Mario, this is a very powerful tool.
I redid my 2019 image of M51 (which I thought was pretty good), by first going back to the DBE step and then adding BlurEXterminator.The difference in sharpness is striking. I didn't spend too much time on the other steps.The contrast and color would have been even better if I had.
Before and after images attached.
Phil
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From: Mario Motta drmariomotta@gmail.com
To: philorb@aol.com
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Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Phil, Russell says best to use while linear, so use right after DBE. You can later use a mild form at the end but lower the amount I found out. FYIMario
On Dec 15, 2022, at 7:32 PM, philorb@aol.com wrote:
Wow indeed. This BLueEx improvement looks as clear as a hi-res aerial photo of the Grand Canyon.
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: Mario Motta drmariomotta@gmail.com
To: philorb@aol.com
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Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Photo] Re: I am a believer.. blurXterminator
so I played with another image.last week also took the flame, NFC 2024, came out "OK" but was not the best steady night.So attached is usual processing.... NGC2024.
same data, had to play with it a bit of learning how now, a BlurXterminator processed NGC2024.all I can say is... WOW. like I took my scope into orbit above the atmosphere.
Like that old "monkeys song,... "I'm a believer" now.This is blowing me away... comments anyone?
Mario
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 4:17 PM philorb--- via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us wrote:
The difference is obvious and strikingly bette,r Mario.
Thanks very much for giving us a heads-up.
Phil
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From: Mario Motta via Photo photo@lists.gaac.us
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Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2022 3:10 pm
Subject: [Photo] I am a believer.. blurXterminator
Hi Guys, this new add on to Pix, Blur exterminator is incredible on first attemptI had done NGC1245 last week for Jan Object of the month.Looked OK. I just re processed with first using BluX, and results are astounding. I attached both for you to examine.The stars in regular processing are OK, but by first treating them to BluX.. the stars while still in linear state became much better. stars are sharp, from edge to edge. Also.. note along the left (eastern) side. on blux version 2 galaxies popped into view not seen on the original processing !!wow.
I am going to test on a few others (1 month free trial by the way), but if I keep getting these results this is indeed a game changer.
see attached images for comparisonLets plan on full discussion of this next month monday session, I will prepare comparisons.
Mario_______________________________________________
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